Dear
Fellow Residents,
For the record – I wanted the keep Sanitation and the Medians in house.
I have been a resident for ~20 years… too long to look back J. I am disturbed about the total misinformation that is being presented and just
wanted to list the facts and only the facts.
All facts obtained below are from the May 6 and May 21 meeting agendas
and backup material which can be found on the Village website. Anyone can find
this info.
In an effort to be equitable and fair to facts, not fiction, here is what
I have summarized for everyone to review. You decide…
In House Sanitation
1.
Cost will increase from $572 to $770 (bringing
staff to Miami Dade County Living Wage and replacing both trucks which are 10
and 13 years old which we currently spend $20,000 per year to repair).
2.
The issue of replacing both trucks: a
professional public waste manager for the City of Ft. Lauderdale, Greg Slagle, was contracted to review our in house shop and figure out how to keep in house
with better efficiencies. He reviewed the maintenance costs, and he physically
inspected the trucks and equipment. He concluded we NEED 2 trucks, NOT 1. He
also confirmed the number of days the trucks would need to run - 4 days with 3
trucks (2 new and 1 old). He also
stated that we needed 8 employees (drivers and laborers) for sanitation only –
11 total employees with public works and roads. This cost is in the $770.
3.
The in house budget includes a 16% health care
increase in costs based upon our actual renewal rate (and the 25% previously discussed
was an estimate, but the actual quote from the insurance company was lower). The $770 prices has the
16% increase, not 25%, and only includes the 8 sanitation workers.
4.
If any of the 8 sanitation staff are absent,
which does happen, then the other employees must cover from public works and
roads. That is built into the administrative costs along with administrative
staff. Payroll must do time carts, finance must pay their bills, etc… This is
how government budgets are structured and we have done this in the Park for
many years.
Outsource Sanitation to WastePro
1. There is an average savings over 5 years of the
contract for each household of a guaranteed amount of $1500 – $2000 ($300-$400
per year)– even with the maximum annual increase of 5% (which is based on
consumer prices index which currently is at 2 to 2.5%).
2. Garbage pick up is the same – it is either bring it out or keep it your side yard in your own container (40 gallon max) – no change except if you want side yard, you need to register with the village – a post card will be sent out or can do it online. Garbage is twice a week (same number of days), but all pickups are on Tuesdays and Fridays.
2. Garbage pick up is the same – it is either bring it out or keep it your side yard in your own container (40 gallon max) – no change except if you want side yard, you need to register with the village – a post card will be sent out or can do it online. Garbage is twice a week (same number of days), but all pickups are on Tuesdays and Fridays.
3. Trash pickup remains exactly the same including
the 4 quarterly Saturday pickups. You can put yard trash in a pile, in receptacles, or in bags-- the same as now and at the curb. It will be once a week on Tuesdays.
4. Recycling will change the bin only. You will be given the choice of a 35 gallon or 65 gallon rolling cart with lid. You will
need to roll it out rather than carry it out as you do now. It will be once a
week on Fridays.
5. Trucks will only be in our Village 2 days a week, and for those interested, they will be "green" natural gas trucks in 2017.
6. Steve discusses the Waste Pro bid being
artificially low, however, it should be noted that SWS' proposal was less than
Waste Pro's. This is how government agencies work – Request for Proposal or RFP –
bids are bids, and contracts are binding.
Our Loyal Staff
1. We currently have 9 employees for sanitation,
public works, and roads. Out of 9, we are retaining 5 for public works and
roads. The budget that was presented and passed includes bringing back
the maintenance of our medians J.
2. Waste Pro have agreed to hire all 4 staff that
we would not retain. We kept the two men with the most seniority.
I am rather disturbed at the level of misinformation and
destructive bantering that individuals are resorting to. Here are my thoughts –
we need to continue to build up our reserves, and build fiscal sustainability.
It is really refreshing to see fiscal conversations taking place. It is my hope
that all of our community will be open to listen to one another in difficult
financial times.
Please don’t continue to throw the commissioners, Village manager, and staff under the bus with misinformation and for doing their public
service jobs. This is simply really difficult all around. Everyone is being
heard – loud and clear - it is
just a really tough issue and the fiscal facts are difficult. Remember, it has taken a long time for the Sanitation
Department to get in this poor state. Blaming is easy – fixing is not.
You decide – but review the fact and not the rumor.
Everything in this email/blog is factual.
Hi Trace - if Garbage pick up is the same –" it is either bring it out or keep it your side yard in your own container (40 gallon max) – no change except if you want side yard, you need to register with the village – a post card will be sent out or can do it online. Garbage is twice a week (same number of days), but all pickups are on Tuesdays and Fridays.. "
ReplyDelete...why does the contract say that there will no longer be alley pickup as the trucks are too large? does that mean that all the waste currently put out on alley and out of site will be waste at street side?
Indiancreek Holding is correct. It is wrong to say there are absolutely no differences between in-house and outsourced service in terms of garbage pick-up. I H has identified the one and only difference. There are very few alleys in the Village (four, I think), but those of us, like me, who live on one will now take our garbage out to the front of the house instead of taking it out to the back, for exactly the reason given. As bad as that news is, the good news is that when there is a lot of rain, we will not have to call a tow truck to extricate a garbage truck from the muck in the alleys. Yes, we have had to do that. Only one of our alleys is "paved," although the pavement is pretty broken up. The consideration now is whether simply to abandon these alleys altogether, and sell them or even give them to the abutting homeowners, to expand their properties.
DeleteThe alley issue may have been a wash anyway, though, since if we had chosen to retain this service, we had been considering whether to replace our small trucks with larger ones, to make the route more efficient. The result-- either our larger trucks or WastePro's could not fit down the alleys-- would have been the same. But had we retained the service in-house and not gone to larger trucks, I H would be absolutely correct.
By the way, Tracy, I think you might have made a mistake about requesting side or back yard service. As I understand it, unless it's been changed, every home in the Village will be given an identical card or page, and the request is to return it with a preference indicated: curbside pick-up or side/back yard pick-up. Those of us who want side or back yard pick-up don't have to do anything different than those who want curbside pick-up. The default, however, is that if you don't return the card or page, the assumption will be that you want curbside pick-up.
All of the other differences between in-house and outsourced sanitation service (there are several) have nothing to do with garbage pick-up. They mostly have to do with decreased cost, increased reliability, and increased control of PW with outsourced sanitation service.
You might think, with all the resistance and all the antipathy, that there is no reason-- at least no good reason-- to outsource sanitation. Doesn't it seem unlikely that anyone would make this move, over such protest, if outsourcing didn't have something pretty compelling to recommend it? Oddly, when you hear the talk or see the petitions, there is not the slightest mention of any possible advantage to outsourcing. As if there wasn't any advantage. Or several of them.
Fred
Just another word on the move to front yard service, for the few of us who live on alleys. It won't be completely foreign to us, since we all already bring our recycling to the curb. Why? Because the Miami Shores trucks are too big to fit in the alleys. Like the WastePro trucks are too big to fit in the alleys. Like new trucks we would have bought would have been too big to fit in the alleys. This was all going to the same place, no matter what.
DeleteFred
Hello Indiancreek Holding,
DeleteI'm not sure what need there was to create your blog account using an anonymous title. This blog is for our community and is a forum for all to come and let their thoughts be known, share their point of view and to discuss issues openly. The creation of several such anonymous "groups" recently have lead to mostly problems and the spread of disinformation.
I'm not saying that this was the case with you, but it has been a problem as mentioned by those who shield their identity deliberately while spreading disinformation.
Milt,
DeleteWe have learned two important things about Indiancreek Holding. One is who she is. She did not want to comment openly, so I will not reveal her name.
The second thing we learned about her is that she does not have an alley behind her house. Presumably, she was just being a good and caring neighbor to the people who do live on alleys, although this detail does not otherwise apply to her.
Fred
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ReplyDeleteI would like to make the following two corrections to my original blog for the sake of accuracy. I am a mere mortal :)
ReplyDeleteThe first is that the $755 is the number (not $770) which includes increasing salaries to a livable wage, 2 trucks, and maintaining the staff at 8. Once again this is the recommendation from Greg Slagle, a public works professional with 27 years’ experience and not anything arbitrary. As a point of reference, Miami Shores pays ~$705 and I would expect we would need to be higher due to the new equipment issues.
Here is the math - from the actual village data.
Year Out-Source Fees In-House Fees Savings
2014 $467 $755 $288
2015 $397 $755 (or higher*) $358
2016 $417 $755 (or higher*) $338
2017 $438 $755 (or higher*) $317
2018 $460 $755 (or higher*) $295
$1,596 = Total Savings over 5 years
$319 = Average Savings over average per year over the 5 years
Please note that the “or higher“ numbers for the in house are related to probably increases in heathcare Please note that the “or higher“ numbers for the in house are related to probably increases in heathcare and other possible costs such as fuel, tipping fees, raises, etc. We cannot maintain at the current rate, nor should we have for many years and is why we are in this predicament.
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Also, I apologize regarding the alley issue. Since I do not have an alley and the vast majority of residents in the village do not, I did not consider this change for those that do. There will be no alley pick up. May I suggest that you contact the Administration directly, the Village Manager, and ask why this is the case.
Tracy,
ReplyDeleteYou make many good points and it's nice to have involvement coming from other residents that are concerned about the spread of disinformation in our Village.
Firstly, I have faith in the advise and recommendations coming from an outside 27 year sanitation professional over that of any of our residents. It is laughable for a resident to "think" he knows more about our needs than an industry expert.
Another good point you made was the cost control measures we gain with WastePro. We will no longer have to scramble when workers don't show up, equipment is down and all of the other issues of trying to run an in-house operation. Knowing that our sanitation department lost over $91,000.00 [during the last audited year] confirms that this in-house approach has and could continue to eat into our reserves.
Lastly, I don't hear enough talk on the benefit of repurposing the PW building to house our police. This will allow for both our police and Admin. to enjoy better working conditions and to avoid building right away... which we cannot afford.
Thanks for taking the time to study and offer real numbers.
One final comment - We have very loyal and hard working staff in the sanitation department that have worked, if I have this correct, a minimum of 13 years and upwards of over 28 years. My heart goes out to each of them and after re-reading my comments, I wanted to make sure their service is also part of the "In House" facts.
ReplyDeleteRespectfully,
Tracy
Tracy,
DeleteThat's really the beauty of it. As you pointed out in your post, WastePro was not the cheapest applicant we got. And they weren't the most expensive. But they were the one that said they wanted to hire our employees away from us, because they recognize their special value, both as committed sanitation workers and as people who know and are connected to the Village. In recommending WastePro, the ad hoc committee charged with choosing the best applicant looked out carefully for our employees. In voting to outsource the sanitation function, I, for one, also looked out for them. WastePro will provide for them proper equipment we can't provide, and they will pay them better than we ever have, or reasonably could. In your post, you talk about raises for these employees. Can you believe that some of the BP residents who don't want to outsource aren't so sure raises are necessary? Talk about abandoning and betraying workers we claim to value.
Our sanitation employees are apprehensive about working for WastePro instead of working for the Village. I understand that. People often don't like change. But we have been careful and caring in choosing WastePro as a contractor, precisely because of the way our valued employees will be handled. They'll get better handling there than they've gotten here.
Fred