Tuesday, September 20, 2022

We Can Chew Gum and Walk at the Same Time

This post is about two things that sort of have nothing to do with each other.  But the title unites them.

Last night, I got an e-mail from Art Gonzalez.  He highlighted part of a comment I made, in response to someone else's comment, in the immediately preceding post.  The part of my response he highlighted was about the "four losers" on the current Commission.  Art (correctly) assumed I meant he was one of the four losers.  He then went on, as any elementary school kid would, to tell me I'm the biggest loser in the Village, and that no one reads this blog.  ("I'm rubber, and you're glue, and whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you."  That kind of level.)  He went on to remind me that he had requested months ago that I remove him from the new post circulation, but that I apparently didn't do it, or didn't do it successfully, and he was still getting the notices.  He tells me that now, months after he requested to be removed.  He added that I shouldn't have said he was a loser on the Commission.  He says I should have said that he contributes nothing, and he would have respected this as my opinion (with which he did not, by the way, disagree, even though I told him that if he thinks I'm wrong, he should remind me of his contributions.  He did not respond.)

The thing is that if Art isn't interested in what I say, then why does he read it?  And he had to do more than that.  He had to read the post, the comments, and the replies to the comments.  I pointed all of that out to Art -- whom I personally like -- and I pointed out that in asking me to remove him from the new post announcement circulation (which I have now successfully done), he was asking me to save him from himself, since if he becomes aware of a new post he doesn't want to read, he will be compelled to read it, and the comments, and the replies to comments, essentially against his own will.  The only way I can prevent Art from doing what he says he doesn't want to do is to be sure he doesn't know there's a new post.  I'm not sure that's my job.  But, as I said, it's also not my intention to be in anyone's face, and if he doesn't want to know there's a new post -- if ignorance is bliss for Art -- then I oblige.  Although I also pointed out to Art that his being a loser on the Commission -- having run for a job he didn't want to do -- is his choice.  I said Art was a loser, but I didn't make him one.  The fact is that Art's failings took me completely by surprise, and as I reminded Art, when I ran at the same time he did, I strongly encouraged voters to vote for him, Mac, and me.  And I put myself last on the list.

The point is that Art should be able to delete e-mails that are not of interest to him, or, if they somehow are of interest to him, he shouldn't blame me for the fact that he delves into them.  He ought to be more independently capable of running his own life and functioning.

Today on the radio, I heard stories about Joe Biden's having said the coronavirus/COVID pandemic is over.  That's what the announcers and discussants said Biden said, but that's not what he said.  They invented Biden's position about the pandemic.  What he said -- they played the recording of it -- was that the pandemic is over, but we still have problems with COVID.  (And I heard this on the local NPR station, not some right wing functionary network.)  Now I have to admit that what Biden said, assuming that's all he said, didn't make entire sense. How is the pandemic over if we still have problems with COVID?  What did he mean by putting it this way?  But no one asked him that.  They just reported, and then savaged, half of his comment.  There were then discussants, including some doctor named Robert Wachter, who said the rate of coronavirus infection has come down greatly, and Dr Wachter said -- I'm just quoting here -- the pandemic is over when we think it's over.  It was unclear what, exactly, that meant, either, but people were saying there are now 400-500 COVID deaths a day, instead of many more than that, as was true previously.  So maybe Dr Wachter, who also wasn't asked, meant that it would not be rational to conclude that the pandemic is over when there are zero deaths per day, so someone has to choose at what level of morbidity and mortality it would be fair to say the pandemic is over.  It was in this extended report that someone said, regarding how to gauge progress against the coronavirus, that "we can chew gum and walk at the same time."

Chewing gum and walking at the same time sounds easy, but maybe Art Gonzalez, and people who deal with what other people say, and have to conceptualize conclusions from it, have to be a little more open-minded, or tolerant, or even just inquisitive.  Short cuts and sound bites are tempting, but they're so often wrong.


14 comments:

  1. I didn't see the "loser" comment until I scrolled back to read it now. (Sorry, I don't read every post and response here or on Nextdoor.) I wouldn't characterize any of us as a "loser." If you don't like what or how we contribute, go ahead and criticize that and be specific, but "loser" is a bit much, don't you think if you're being fair? I'm called things like that (and worse), which I shrug off because those folks are typically just grinding axes or are misinformed, or in my case they are homophobes. (Yes, those bloodsuckers still lurk in the shadows of 2022.) It's part of the gig, I know, but I don't have to like it and would an appreciate an apology from them if they realized they had stepped over a line.

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    1. Mac,

      If you wouldn't characterize any of you as a loser (don't see that in any of you), it's because you're not a loser.

      But Art had the same reaction you did: that I should be more specific, and just say he, and Ginny, and Dan, and Judi, don't contribute. On the one hand, he proposed to dismiss such an impression as just my opinion, but on the other hand, he didn't say he disagreed. But as I said, if someone is in a position where the task, or the requirement, is to contribute, and the person doesn't contribute, it's sort of semantics not to say the person is a loser, at least in that situation or setting. As I said, I personally like Art. I don't generally think he's a loser. I think he's a charming and friendly person. And frankly, I expected to have reason to think the same thing of Commissioner Art Gonzalez. I had no way to predict how empty he would be in that setting. He sort of promised the opposite.

      But I do get it. "Loser" is a non-specific term. So I apologize. I should have complained that four of our Commissioners contribute nothing and have nothing to offer to the Village. Which is exactly the opposite of the job description of a Commissioner. I'm no less frustrated or disappointed, but I'll take Art's and your advice, and use a different way of expressing what the problem is.

      Fred

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    2. Mac,

      I don't like to do things wrong, and I generally don't want to offend (believe it or not). So, if I do something wrong, or if I'm wrong about something, I always want to correct, including to apologize. If I offend, which I seem to have a penchant for doing, I might or might not apologize, depending on whether or not I conclude the fault is mine, and the offense should have been avoidable. In this case, Art and you are making a valid point, and I should not have communicated in a way that offended. So I apologize. Art and you are right, and I was wrong.

      Fred

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    3. There’s no need to apologize Doctor didn’t do anything wrong he spoke the truth he’s allowed his to his opinion we do have people on the commission they have no business being on the commission they’re holding back progress also the meetings are held so late at night at 7 o’clock I’m sure Art Gonzalez has his dinner before he goes to the meeting so he gets sleepy he can’t focus that’s why he’s in a daze same goes for the other commissioners the very old they don’t look very healthy and once you have a full dinner around 6 PM and then you have to be at the meeting by 7 PM their metabolism slows down too many rice and beans 🫘

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    4. "Anonymous," you have just illustrated Art's and Mac's point. I said Art was a "loser." That is non-specific, and it doesn't have useful meaning. If I had said what you just said -- that Art is contributing to holding back progress, in part because he appears as if he was sleepy or inattentive for some other reason -- it would have been more proper.

      Meetings do not occur, of course, at 7:00 because that's what Art wants, and you have no idea what is his meal schedule. You also have no idea what Art eats for dinner. So those parts of your comment are meaningless.

      I wonder how much bluster you would have if you had to take personal responsibility for what you say, for example if you could be identifiable apart from Mac's guess.

      Fred

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  2. Louis, you're most certainly welcome to attend the event and get a donut for yourself.

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  3. Mac should make some changes you can’t have people standing in this extreme heat it’s over 100° with the humidity you’re going to have senior citizens there you’re gonna have children it’s unhealthy to be out in this Extreme heat over 90° every single day for the last eight weeks can you please arrange freebie to deliver to Boston Cream donuts to me I would appreciate it reconsider the planning of everyone standing in your driveway it’s gonna be a mess and then you’re gonna serve hot coffee on top of that Mac doesn’t make sense And no chairs to sit down you expect people to stand up for 2 or 3 hours in this heat and humidity change everything to inside your house it’s big enough to accommodate so the audience attending and the candidates attending could be comfortable otherwise they’re just gonna walk away they’re not gonna listen to anybody or do it at the clubhouse log cabin indoors not outdoors

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  4. Dr. anonymous number two had a good point he’s right it’s costing the Village Biscayne Park residence more Diaz has incurred multiple excessive expenses for the village of Biscaynpark the first thing that Kennedy should do is Claude back the money that Diaz paid out to the public relations firm his personal friends that’s public corruption we just had a commissioner Joe of Miami Dade County the governor unseeded him today and that could very well happen to Diaz but everyone stays quiet about the subject as if they’re afraid that Diaz might leave that job who cares nobody cares about Diaz he’s a money pit because it’s not his money new website baloney the old website was fine public relations firm bologna because he’s lazy and doesn’t want to send out the emails he has Shantay right now that could replace him in a blink there’s no need to have Diaz as a village manager Shantay can take over tomorrow morning and I’m almost sure 100% that Kennedy is going to figure it out and he’s going to get rid of Diaz once he becomes the mayor it’s coming down the pipeline he’s sucking the village in Biscayn Park dry and he just got a raise company car company cell phone company insurance company everything too many sick days it takes off doesn’t show up doesn’t answer the phone doesn’t answer emails anymore do we really need this type of manager Shantay is sharp as a whip she can run circles around Diaz and the police department needs to be revamped completely you’re familiar with the three Palms restaurant on Biscayne Boulevard and 116th St. well pass by a couple of times a day minimum 3 to 4 Biscayne park police cars patrol officers parked there at the same time almost every single day all having Cuban sandwiches espresso coffee four of them at the same time no one says anything about it that’s the new hideout I hope Kennedy does something about it for active police officers should not be meeting and taking breaks at the same time maybe one or two but not four at the same time the village a Biscayn Park residence of being ripped off it’s not even in Biscaynpark it’s an unincorporated Dade what are they doing there what are they doing taking breaks at the same time four of them at the same time !!!! So much dirty politics that goes on in the village of Biscaynpark that’s why I would draw my campaign I can’t be part of this public corruption I’m an honorable resident of Biscaynpark I could be more effective on the outside than the inside because if I’m on the inside I’m a member of the club I don’t wanna be a member of the club I want to be an observer of the club but ultimately in years to come the village of Biscayne Park will implode it cannot govern itself it hasn’t worked in 75 years it’s not gonna work now it’s a matter of time before it gets dismantled this security guard police department that we have this political involve Diaz village manager we have public works hides behind the trees I see them all the time resting in the shade

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    1. Mac,

      I see now that you were right. Not only is there the same lack of punctuation and grammatical disasters (and results of dictating instead of typing, unless Louis/"Anonymous" is that bad at the use and construction of the English language) between Louis and "Anonymous," but "Anonymous," in his comment just above says "I could be more effective on the outside than the inside, because if I'm on the inside, I'm a member of the club..." making clear it is "Anonymous" who was going to run, then changed his mind, as Louis did. And stuff like "Biscaynepark," "Biscayne park," and Biscayn Park." All over the place, and clearly doesn't have any idea of how to communicate even basic things.

      I saw a lot of similarities, then some differences (in language usage), and I wasn't sure it was the same person. Now I am. Your instinct was correct.

      Fred

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  5. Louis, my husband just rescinded the invitation for Saturday. He doesn't like the idea of you coming onto our property, based on the emails you have sent to me and the village and the whacky things you've posted on social media. Ask one of your neighbors to take a donut home for you.

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    1. I still say feeding people donuts was not the purpose of the gathering, and if Louis just wants a donut, he should go buy himself one. I wish I could say he's a big boy, but that does not appear to be the case. But if he had enough money to open a campaign account, then at least he can afford a donut. And since he clearly has no interest in interacting with anyone else, even if Dan would allow him on your property, then the donut was all he was going to get out of this anyway.

      Fred

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