Sunday, September 6, 2015

Is It All In the Wrist?



Last week's Commission meeting was preceded by the receipt of a collection of e-mails.  Barbara Kuhl had formulated an opening statement and four questions, she had passed them along to Steve Bernard, Steve sent them to an unknown circulation, and about 10-15 people's responses were sent to the Commission.  Only one of the responses was sent to Commissioners directly by the respondent, and all the rest were sent by respondents to Barbara, who then sent them to Commissioners.  We have no idea how many people received the questions, whether any information other than the questions and the brief introduction to them was made available to those on the circulation, and whether Barbara received any responses she did not forward to Commissioners.

This is what Barbara/Steve sent their circulation:


Hi Everyone,

As you probably know our Log Cabin is being renovated.  Commission meetings will be held there when it's finished and there have been some discussions about the dais.  Right now it seems like a majority of the Commissioners are in favor of having a fixed, permanent dais.  The cost, according to our Village Manager is $24,000.  

The Village has borrowed $350,000, and will still need another $135,000,  to complete the restoration of the Log Cabin.  Some residents are not in favor of spending $24,000, for a dais.  Some residents would like to have it movable so that the Log Cabin can be used for other purposes.  The dais as proposed will take up approximately half of the Log cabin.  The plans for the Log Cabin and the dais location are attached.

At the last budget meeting Mayor Coviello said that he's heard from residents in favor and opposed to these issues.

We would like to hear from more residents.  

Please tell us:

1.  Do you think it's a good idea to have a permanent, fixed dais? 

2.  Do you think the dais should be redesigned so that it's movable?  

3.  Do you think we should spend $24,000, now to build the dais? 

4.  Do you think we should postpone the expenditure? 


The responses the Commissioners received were more or less unanimous.  They weren't quite unanimous, in that some people did not answer every question, but there was a strong trend among responses.  It seems no one whose response was sent to the Commissioners wanted a fixed dais, everyone wanted a movable dais, everyone thought the cost was too high (outrageously so, it seems), and everyone thought the expenditure should be postponed.  Again, that trend represents all the answers given and forwarded to Commissioners.

I have, in effect, conducted a poll of my own.  It is represented by the blog post just before this one.  I have no idea what the circulation is, except that I directly inform about 75 people of new posts.  Viewership statistics suggest that more than 75 people are aware of blog posts.  In addition, a website called Feedspot picks up this blog, and there is no way for me to know how many people they inform of new posts.

What I know is that the average viewership when there is no new post is about 20 views a day.  The post I published just over 60 hours ago has received about 200 views.  So there have been about 150 views attributable to the presence of the last post.

Of those 150 or 200 people, four have chosen to leave comments thus far.  I do not control comments.  I do not delete any, and I do not adjust any.  You can read the comments for yourself.  Of the four, it seems all of them agree with the fixed dais.  Some are concerned about the cost of the dais, but none rules it out completely.  One seems to consider whether a postponement might be appropriate, in order to save up for the expensive permanent dais.

These kinds of results are more or less opposite to those transmitted by Barbara Kuhl.  The obvious question is why the results are so different.  Could Barbara/Steve be tapping a population of respondents different from those who become aware of blog posts?  Some of their respondents are people who are not on my circulation, but others are on my circulation.  Those who receive notices of new posts from me, and who also received the questions from Barbara/Steve, apparently chose to respond to Barbara/Steve, but not to comment on the blog post.  The post, by the way, requests an opinion, just as did the Barbara Kuhl letter.

As I read Barbara's letter/questions, they seem a bit slanted.  In its way, so is the blog post.  (For example, Barbara says the proposed dais will take up about half of the room.  I say it's about a third.  It looks like about a third to me.  But if it's not precisely a third, it's very clearly not half.  So the "truth" might be somewhere in between.)  But either survey was supposedly open for any response of any persuasion.  Again, we have no way of knowing if Barbara got any responses she did not share with the Commission.  What we also don't know is if there was any other information Barbara shared with her recipients, but she did not include it in the letter attached to the questions.  I raise this possibility, because Barbara was involved in a petition drive a year or so ago, and it turned out that those who were asked to sign the petition were apparently given more information about the issue than was contained in the petition.  This is of course very normal for petition drives.  The problem was that some of the information given, in the petition and in the additional explanation, was wrong.  We don't know if a version of that happened here, too.

But coming back to the two sets of responses about the dais, there is an interesting peculiarity between them.  Barbara made the responses she sent to Commissioners public record.  In addition, one of the respondents explicitly asked that his letter (more than simple answers to the four questions) be read at the Commission meeting last week.  His response was not read, because there was abundant discussion during the meeting, it was decided not to take the time to read all 10-15 of the responses, and they were public record anyway.  But because the response is public record, because this was the one response sent directly by the respondent to the Commissioners, and because the respondent specifically asked that his response be read openly at the meeting, it's worth a closer look.  The respondent was our neighbor, William Pierce.  Funny enough, there is a blog commenter who calls himself William.  I am not in a position to know if "William" is William Pierce, but I do know that William Pierce is on my circulation of people to be notified of new posts.  And how many people named William go by William?

Here's what's interesting about the responses from William Pierce and "William."  William Pierce says he got at least some of his information about this issue by watching a transmission of the 8/11/15 budget workshop.  He had some concerns with the design of the dais, in that he did not want it to be usable for only one purpose.  Mostly, however, he was concerned with the cost.  He felt it was exorbitant and not within the Village's budget, and this was a greater crime if the dais was not (re)movable, so that the room could be adapted for other purposes.  He seemed also a bit concerned that a new, fancy, and imposing dais somehow represented self-aggrandizement on the parts of the particular Commissioners in office now.

"William" who commented in the last blog post was also concerned with the cost of the dais, but he was more gentle and more generous, if even a bit more tentative, in his criticism.  He reiterated his willingness to keep temporary card tables as the Commission/Board surface for another year.  Now, though, he makes reference to some "brain-storming" he has been doing with some of his neighbors.  That brain-storming has led him to understand that even a movable dais is not removable, and moving it confers little or no benefit with respect to his idea to clear the room for other functions.  But with which neighbors did he brain-storm?  In the post, I said a movable dais was only slightly movable, and was not removable, but William didn't talk to me, other than to read the post.  Did he talk to someone else?  He read and made reference to the comments before his.  It seems that whatever he, if it was he, responded to in the Barbara Kuhl letter/questionnaire did not include an understanding that a movable dais is only slightly movable, and not removable.  William was also more willing to consider spending $24.5K than William Pierce had been to spending $24K, and William suggested that maybe a fixed dais would be the better choice, since adapting the dais to make it move would also make it cost more.  "William" is not at all accusatory or insulting to Commissioners, as William Pierce seemed almost to be, and he even suggested ways Commissioners could better engage their neighbors to persuade them to agree to the fixed, expensive dais.

So why did William, assuming he and William Pierce are the same person, change his approach?  Why were Commissioners told only of critics in response to Barbara Kuhl's outreach?  Why did some people who were critical of the dais in response to Barbara's outreach, but who are on the blog circulation, not also criticize here?  Their opinion, even criticism, was requested.

Barbara has a theory about this phenomenon.  She has shared it with me.  Her theory is that people are reluctant to comment in the blog if their comments are not in agreement with the post author (usually me), because they're afraid I or some other author will argue with them, or even insult them in some way.  But some people, even Barbara, do in fact share disagreement in blog comments.  And does the same phenomenon apply regarding Barbara's request for feedback?  Would she bury or confront a response she didn't like?  Or would someone be afraid to disagree with her (and Steve), as she thinks they're afraid to disagree with me?  We don't know.  I came to find out indirectly about Barbara's request for feedback.  For whatever reasons, I am not on Steve's circulation, but someone else sent it to me.  I would have responded in disagreement with Barbara's very clear preference, but since I myself am a Commissioner, I felt it would be inappropriate to reply to a petition.

It's a curious difference between Barbara's and my requests for feedback.


PS: In her introduction to her four questions, Barbara says that David Coviello reportedly heard from residents both in favor of and opposed to the dais.  But Barbara didn't report that she heard from anyone who was in favor of the dais.  What accounts for these discrepancies?




4 comments:

  1. As an observer from out of town, I am struck by the fact that the matter of the dais takes up such an inordinate amount of time. BP residents seem to love making mountains out of the minutiae of the moment. I am surprised that no one has jumped in yet with comments. I don't understand why those that are so quick to complain, and have the chance to express their opinions, aren't seizing the the opportunity to do so. You keep inviting them in, they renege, and In the end, isn't that really what this is all about?"
    Judith Marks-White
    Westport, CT
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  2. I'm still curious how Barbara Kuhl got such uniform responses, assuming she did not get other responses she didn't share, and how sympathetic they were to her own position. I see that in her opening information, before her questions, she tells her circulation that "some residents" are not in favor of spending $24K on a dais, and "some residents" think a dais should be movable. Does that mean other residents are not opposed to spending $24K or having a fixed dais, but she omitted to point that out? Funny enough, it was Gary Kuhl who used to chide me for telling both sides of a story, before I presented my conclusion, as if there was something wrong with recognizing the controversy in a topic. I think I did that in the post in which I asked readers what kind of dais they preferred.

    So did Barbara stack the deck when it came to soliciting, or maybe eliciting, opinions? Did she stir things up, then ask the stirred up people what they thought? It's certainly true that William Pierce was a lot more het up and rejecting than was William, who seemed more conciliatory and even accepting. And all that happened between William Pierce and William was that he did some "brainstorming" and read a blog post.

    Barbara Kiers is another example. She wrote to Barbara Kuhl, in response to the four questions, to trash the dais idea. Barbara Kuhl passed along to Commissioners Barbara Kiers' response. But Barbara Kiers is also on my blog post list. If she has a strong opinion, or preference, why didn't she leave a comment to that effect, as was requested?

    Judith asks an important question: why do people want to complain and attack, but they don't want to converse?

    Fred

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  3. Fred,
    Let me clear up your question on william and william Pierce they are both me and I am william Pierce. Thats solved no mystery just a simple mistake from a novice blogger.
    Since it was not read in the last meeting as I requested here is what I wrote below so everyone knows and no confusion.

    Hello Mr Mayor and Commissioners,
    I understand after watching one of the budget meetings on 8/11/15 some talk about a permanent Dais in the Log cabin. This concerns me some what because unless we took careful consideration on where and how it was built it could become a deciding factor on weather someone would rent the log cabin for an event. I think more of an open floor plan is more attractive to people looking for a venue for an event. One comment was it has no catering kitchen you do not need one. Most of the the companies have trucks they work out of. I liked the idea Babarara Had about making the wings of the Dais movable. Maybe making the table one long table for events and having a top that folds up and over to create a flat surface and we don't have issues with the 4 inch lift on the front that covers all the DT wires.
    But most concerning is that we keep saying that the village is running out of funds and we are looking in to annexation etc to offset that, But then we build a new building that put us in to another debt and now want to take on more debt to build a Dais. Doesn't seem very responsible to me. Lets enjoy the new building for a year or so and continue using the folding Table Dais with skirting until such time we have the money to build, something that is movable and/or portable with quick connections to make for fast install for meeting. I know this can be done because in my business I have to come up with ways to make the most complex situations work. I would stop spending Village money and work on building up the reserves first.
    As far as what the Mayor suggested about it being time to build something to be proud of we have. Its a village and a New Village Hall. A Dais is not going to make village residence more proud of the village it will make the Mayor and commissioners more proud sitting behind it I imagine. Someone mentioned that north Miami and El portal have fixed Dais. But North Miami is a much bigger municipality and as for El Portal I would be curious to see if they paid 24000.00 for it. Would we not have to bid this out to a few companies first? I have a few I would recommend if so.
    I write this with a open mind as a 19 year resident of Biscayne park as I hope you read this with the same open mind.
    I would Like this to be read in its entirety at the meeting on 9-1-15 incase I miss it.

    Thank you so much for taking the time to read my email. Look forward to any responses you may have.
    best
    William Pierce

    Only 2 of the commission responded to my email by the way. And as far as the brain storming comment Fred, I meant the friendly blogging going on in your blog thats all. And I watched all of the on demand video as I did for the last meeting I was unable to attend. Hope this clears things up on the william mystery.
    Have a great night.
    William/William Pierce

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  4. All clear. Thanks, William.

    Fred

    PS: Not my blog. Our blog. Your blog. Have your way with it. If you want to post something of your own, let me know, and you'll be a guest author, with full access. You can write anything you want. I just ask that you let me know when you've posted something, so I can send out the new post announcement, as I do for myself and everyone else.

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