Thursday, July 13, 2017
And On the Eighth Day... (Part I)
There was a bit of good news in the Commission meeting last night. For some reason, our new Commission has figured out what to do with a Consent Agenda. Each Commissioner had seen it, there was nothing requiring deliberation or comment (the definition of a Consent Agenda), and all it needed was to be passed. So they passed it.
It's difficult in retrospect to remember if the Commission got through half of its remaining agenda. It could even have been a bit more than half. But whatever proportion was addressed (not completed), the meeting got horribly bogged down. And not in the most likely places, either.
The Police Chief's report and the Village Manager's report didn't need to take long, but they took longer than seemed necessary.
I would have figured the first millage discussion as a black hole for the Commission, but it was over before long. I would have figured a bigger crowd, too, but the room was not packed, as it usually is for that conversation. No real decision was made, and the conclusion was to schedule a separate meeting just for that. Next Monday, July 17, at 6:30. We have deadlines. Last night's quickie agreement was to start the conversation at our good old friend, the irrational 9.7 mills. We're kind of stuck on that number, even though it has no meaning. It is, however, more than 10% higher than the "rollback" property tax of 8.8 mills, so agreeing to it might require the assent of at least four Commissioners, instead of the usual simple majority.
Oh, the yard trash. Man, did that topic eat up time. And here was the big issue: WastePro comes here to collect yard trash on Mondays. They take whatever is there, unless the pile is more than an estimated two cubic yards. In that case, they alert the Village Administration, which warns (or something) the homeowner, and WastePro comes back on Wednesday to collect those larger piles, which results in an extra charge to the homeowner.
A very bad construction was made of this phenomenon in last night's meeting. These larger loads were described as "illegal," "violations," evidence of "non-compliance," and other similar histrionic characterizations. They are nothing of the sort. They are, as they were occasionally described, "oversized" loads, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with them. If anything, they are the results of more ambitious yard maintenance. What a wonderful thing! And the extra charge is for the extra work, not as some sort of punishment to the ambitious and tidy homeowner.
The fact is, we and WastePro set a fee for predictable yearly service. This fee includes two weekly garbage collections (Tuesday and Friday), one recycling collection (Friday), and one yard trash collection (Monday). We did not set an amount of garbage or recycling that would be the prepaid maximum, but we did set an amount of yard trash that would be prepaid. We are welcome to put out as much yard trash as we like, but anything over two cubic yards per week is not prepaid. We pay for the overage additionally and in arrears.
Not only did this matter get way too much chatter, and not only were the results of more ambitious landscaping somehow characterized as misbehavior, but somehow (I'm still not clear how), some on the Commission wanted to blame WastePro for something to do with the piles of yard trash, and for the profusion of waste containers that are visible in the Village for too many days. It was a little nuts, frankly. It's a very good thing when Village residents do big landscape clean-ups and projects. It results in a lot of debris? Yeah, so? And it took too long (although not as long as under the prior Commission) for Commissioners to suggest simply that WastePro just pick up the debris on Monday, take a photograph, in case anyone disputes, and have the Village charge the resident. What on earth is the big deal? And why this preoccupation with blaming, accusing, and wanting to punish?
The other side issue (more or less a complaint, or at least a matter of possibly manufactured concern) was that it's much, much easier to dispose of large piles of landscape debris with a power scooper than by hand. Some people spoke as if they thought it would be a bad thing to have one available as part of the collection effort. But again, what's the big deal? What's wrong with power scoopers (the things with the big claw, that grabs up a large pile of something, and dumps it in a truck)? They would be used to collect only the large piles, so they wouldn't slow anything down, and they wouldn't leave scars on everyone's driveways and swales.
Speaking of which (slowing things down), there are still (more than able-bodied) Village residents complaining that they don't want to bring their refuse out to the curb. They want side yard pick-up. Some Village residents who want, and get, side yard pick-up are too busy to bring out their own refuse, in part because they're at the gym. You need exercise? Um...
The time we wasted on that issue. More than one person summarized this exchange as our having beaten up Kenny Rivera of WastePro. The way he scurried out of there when the matter was finally over suggested he felt that way, too.
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Fred, a quick comment: Waste Pro used the big claws (or power scoopers) when they started service here, in my yard there was a big rip on the grass where I set my yard debris. I think David Coviello got the same on his lawn... So that's your answer, they damage the grass underneath.
ReplyDeleteJorge,
DeleteYou raise a few issues. One is the issue of where you put the debris to be picked up. If you put it on your grass, I can see how what happened to you and David could happen. If you put it on your driveway, it won't.
In any case, the other issue you raise is a cure for this injury. I don't know what you and David did about it. Did you report it or complain? It was either Janey or Bob Anderson last night who said that a WastePro truck once drove over part of their sod and injured it. The Andersons reported this to WastePro, and WastePro replaced the spot with new sod.
I don't know if it's because of the kinds of things that happened to you and David, or for other reasons, but even WastePro last night said they do not use the claws for regular small collections. They only (now?) use them for larger accumulations that would take too long and be too much trouble to do by hand.
Fred
Fred, if I put the debris on my driveway I cannot drive out of the house? Most people in my street put the debris on top of the grass. The issue was reported and Waste Pro stopped using the claws, it only happened once at the beginning of their contract and the manager put a stop to it, since it was written in their contract NOT to use the mechanical claws.
ReplyDeleteJorge,
DeleteYou're right. I forgot that your swale is not developed, and all you have is the lawn and the end of your driveway. But it seems WastePro figured out what you also came to know, and they don't propose to use the claw for routine collections any more. Also remember that if they damage your lawn, and you tell them about it, they will replace what was damaged.
They want to use the mechanical claws for big loads, because it takes longer to do it by hand. On the other hand (excuse the pun), when they were asked how many large loads there are per week here, they said it was commonly about five. So proportionately, this seems like a very small matter, even if they did do it by hand.
On the other other hand, some people seemingly bizarrely complained that if it was made easy and not expensive to create large piles of landscape debris, more people would create such piles. This was suggested as if it was a bad thing. I couldn't figure this out, since creating large piles of debris is the result of doing more extensive clean-ups, which to me is a good thing. We should want to encourage that, not punish it. It all seemed very twisted and irrational to me.
Fred