I'm not on Nextdoor, but one of our neighbors who is contacted me about a curious post. The poster was someone named Joy Goulart, and the post was to present interviews of the three Commission candidates who were never former Commissioners (William Abreu, Art Gonzalez, and Judi Hamelburg). There was also mention of the two incumbents, who were named (Mac Kennedy and Will Tudor). The reason our neighbor informed me about this curious post was because one current candidate was omitted entirely. He's not an incumbent, he was formerly a Commissioner, and somehow, it was decided that he could be treated as if he didn't exist.
I have no idea why it was Joy Goulart who posted this, but the interviewer was Milt Hunter. Milt is not a stranger to Nextdoor, and it was never explained why he was hiding behind Joy Goulart's skirt.
At any rate, Milt permitted each of his interviewees an opening and a closing statement, and the rest of the interview was the interviewees' answers to Milt's prepared questions. To Milt's credit, he asked each of the candidates precisely the same questions. At least he asked those questions of the candidates he interviewed, which was half of the candidates who are running. And between his interviewees and the incumbents he/Joy Goulart mentioned, it was almost all of the candidates. All but the one Milt was trying to disappear.
As an aside, the last time I ran for Commission was in 2016. At that time, we had a normal Meet the Candidates event, and Milt was the coordinator of a group of people to put this together. I have been told by one of the group that Milt had to be backed off from his flagrant attempt to single me out for confrontation and challenge. Milt has found a more subtle method this year.
Milt's first interviewee was William Abreu. William told Milt's audience that he and his family have lived in the Park for four years (he got a little confused as to whether it was four, and he had to try to remember his daughter's age, which he first gave as four, then changed to five), and he explained his candidacy. Sort of. He described himself as "more of a 'get-the-job-done' guy." But he did not explain why in however many years he's lived here he did not attempt to get any Village job done. And Milt certainly wasn't going to press him. William has never joined a board, nor come to Commission meetings, and his theory about himself seems to rest on other parts of his life. William said "I don't know who else has dedicated as much of themselfs (sic) to public service as I have. I don't know." No, I guess he wouldn't. It was unclear what William meant about his devotion to public service, but it clearly doesn't include Biscayne Park. Except he has suddenly decided he should be a Commissioner of this place about which his other responses made clear he doesn't know much.
The next interviewee was Art Gonzalez. Art said he, too, has lived here 4 1/2 years. But Art didn't say the idea to be on the Commission came to him like a calling or a dream. He said a number of people have suggested he run. Apparently, they finally broke through his presumed resistance. One complaint Art would like to address is that the BP police are not very active. Art's awareness of it is that our force only write "one or two tickets a month." He'd like to see better enforcement. In reviewing Art's background, Milt said he liked Art's "managorial (sic) experience." Art was concerned about what looked to him like "cliques" on the recent Commissions. He didn't specify which "cliques" he objected to, and Milt certainly wasn't going there. Another place from which Milt kept a very wide berth was Art's repeated complaint about "excluding people." Oops. And Art even made mention of "Fred's blog," on which he said he had "posted" (comments). I will remind that I made this blog fully available to all Commission candidates, except William Abreu, whom I did not at the time know how to reach, so they could use it to get out their messages. You need to know what they want, because you need to know if it's what you want. Only Mac Kennedy took me up on the offer.
Judi Hamelburg has been here 24 years. The vast majority of her presentation was her usual: reworking any topic or question to her own personal experience. And Judi did two things with her reworkings. One was that she portrayed herself as the initiator of all good things that happen, because she's the only person who cares about other people, and the other was that she portrayed herself as a perpetual victim, most commonly on the basis of her gender. One thought/idea Judi had was to wonder why CITT funds can't be used for street paving. This seemed a curious idea, since either it can, in which case she should have said that was her intention, or it can't, in which case she should know why (the rules for use of CITT funds). Another of Judi's comments that I thought was very important (especially considering the blog post before this one) was her criticism of Krishan Manners' (lack of) oversight, "although [she] loved him to death as a person." Judi understood what many of her supporters don't understand: that you can personally like someone, but that doesn't mean they'd do a good job. Finally, Milt was asking Judi, as he asked each of his interviewees, about our property tax rate. Judi made an interesting comment in response to Milt's question about what she thought of the increase in it after 2010. She said she would like it to come down, although she herself was not complaining, since she bought (and homestead protected) her house in 1996, so her taxes are pretty low. Again, it seemed Judi was being distracted by her own personal experiences. She's never publicly commented that she'd like a lower tax rate.
The interesting character here was Milt Hunter. Milt had gotten himself into a real mess, and he seemed almost unaware of it. First, of course, there was his years-long and ongoing efforts to bury me. I wondered if he cringed when Art complained about excluding people. And second, and perhaps more provocative, were those of Milt's questions that seemed to reflect complaint and criticism of the behavior of the recent Commission that he himself worked so hard to get elected. He complained about rule-breaking among Commissioners, ordering around the manager and other Village employees without discussion with the Commission, and abuse of lawyer time. It seemed as if he was boxing with his own shadow. If he wasn't so dedicated to giving me a hard time, and sacrificing the Village to do it, I might have felt sorry for him.
The other mischievous thing Milt did was regarding his question about the millage, which he said was 8.9 in 2010 and 9.7 more recently (since about 2011). His seemingly artless ploy was to imply that we were just charging ourselves more, as if for nothing. What Milt carefully omitted to mention -- or maybe he doesn't know about it -- is that we had a huge crash at the end of 2007 and into 2008 and 2009. We rely very heavily on our ad valorem property tax, and if we hadn't raised it, probably more than we did, we would have sunk. As an example, and to take a page out of Judi Hamelburg's book, I'll tell you my own experience paying property tax. I moved here in 2005, at about the height of the market. Within a year or so after that, my yearly property tax was about $6000. After 2008, because of drops in assessment and increases in exemptions, my tax was cut in half, to $3000. Because I have a homestead exemption, as do most homeowners here, my assessment can only go up a maximum of 3% per year, regardless of the actual value of my house. It will take me 33 years to get back to where I was when the economy crashed. (So I make a lot of, um, donations to BP.) But our costs don't go down. They go up. Luckily for us, there's always some turnover, and someone is buying a house that was taxed irrationally low, and paying a higher tax on it. But that doesn't happen to the whole Village all at once. It takes years and decades for all the houses to get sold. So Milt was being a bit disingenuous, if not frankly dishonest, with that question.
That was Milt's continuing effort to massage this election, and particularly to try to steer attention anywhere but in my direction. It wasn't very classy, but it might work.
PS: This post mysteriously disappeared from Nextdoor during the day on Monday. I was going to suggest that you could at least watch the interviews, if you're interested in them, on youtube, which is where Milt keeps videos like this, but it appears he's removed them from there, too. Clearly, some people have seen them, and if you ask around, especially of people who are Nextdoor denizens, you may find someone who's seen them. That way, you can fact check what I've reported here.
I asked Milton if all the candidates would be included and his response to me was this was a community introduction for new candidates. He further said that the other 3 did not need an introduction since they are either currently serving or have served and have a record to run on. I for one would have liked to have seen everyone included.
ReplyDeleteArt,
DeleteWhen we have Meet the Candidates events, all candidates are included. It doesn't matter if they're incumbents, never Commissioners before, or not incumbents but used to be Commissioners. I hope it is clear to you, at least now, that Milt is not only not fair and open, but that he has singled me out. He's been doing this for years. If you want to know why, you can ask him. I'm not sure what he'd say, or if he knows.
In the spirit of fairness and openness, I regret that you did not decline Milt's offer to interview you, once he made clear to you that he chose not to interview all of us. Most or all of his questions applied to all candidates. The fact that an incumbent, or I, have a record of our participation and past decision-making does not mean we would respond to questions today precisely as we might have responded to the same questions years ago. Also, Milt chose to ask the millage question to the three of you, when two of you did not have the perspective to know what was wrong with the question.
I think it's a wonderful thing that you have negotiated ways of getting along with a lot of people. But I hope that doesn't prevent you from seeing them for who they are. I hope you realize what Milt has tried to do to the Biscayne Park election process. And he used Nextdoor, which has a relatively extensive membership, to do it. As I said, I regret that you allowed yourself to go along with this. If your goal was to get as much exposure as you could, absent use of this blog, which you said you did not want to use, then you accomplished that goal. But you have to be careful into whose snares you allow yourself to get seduced. You got what you wanted out of Milt's ploy, and you need to understand what Milt wanted out of it, which he, too, got. Remember, he did more than provide an introduction to the candidates who had never before been Commissioners. He/Joy Goulart also mentioned by name two of the other three candidates. Anyone relying on this Nextdoor post would very clearly understand there were five people running.
Having said that, I still think you would make a good Commissioner, and you have my vote.
Fred
This comment has been removed by the author.
DeleteFred,
DeleteI did not know anything about this being put on NextDoor until I saw it. It was my understanding that it would be put on his blog. I would have hoped you would give me a little more credit. I may be smarter than you think, I am not naïve my friend. If Milt has an agenda it is his agenda and he has a right to it. It does not mean I agree with it or will go along with anyone's agenda. You may think I was used as a political ploy or some deep state theory but I can assure you I was not. I respect your opinion but I do not agree with it. Given the explanation I was given I took it at face value. Many people in our community have no clue who I am, who William is or who Judy is. As I said earlier I think everyone should have been included and the format could have been different. If I am elected I intend on continuing to speak to Milt, you or anyone else who would like to speak to me. I am open to anyone wanting to put together a session perhaps on ZOOM and if invited Ill be there.
Art,
DeleteYou're venturing into territory it's probably best to avoid. You say you had an understanding about something. Now, you see your understanding was wrong. I'm not saying you're naive. I'm saying you were scammed. You were used as a pawn. I hope that looking back on it now, you can see that, even though you might not have thought you had a reason to expect it from the outset. You might also take this opportunity to reconsider whether you would still think it was wise to take something from Milt at "face value." I realize, of course, that I know Milt much better than you do, and the idea that something from him perhaps should not be taken at face value would have been much more obvious to me than it would have been to you. But you do have an opportunity here to learn something.
It was your understanding that these interviews would be confined to Milt's blog, but you were misled. You think everyone should have been included, but you were seduced, sweet-talked, or whatever to participate in spite of what you thought should have happened not happening. As I said, what's done is done, but there's a learning opportunity for you here. It's up to you whether or not you want to learn anything from it.
Fred
Fred
DeleteI am not afraid of any territory. You are right that I am always learning I don't think we ever stop. I am also man enough to admit if and when I make a mistake. Having looked at this from your perspective and mine I have come to the conclusion that you are wrong and I am right.
There are a lot of things in life we are taught that are incorrect. Just because you believe their is a lesson here for me I believe that perhaps there is a lesson here for you and its up to you whether or not you want to learn anything from it.
This reminds me of our NextDoor days! We had quite the battles on there and I enjoyed every single one. As you know from those days I have a hard time staying quiet when I fell like someone is trying to bully me. If you have any further wisdom you would like to share Ill be happy to respond.
Art,
DeleteI don't know what you think I'm wrong about, since I didn't assert anything.
You said it was your understanding that these interviews would only be shown on Milt's blog. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I can't think where else you would have gotten an understanding like that but from Milt. When you say it was your understanding, I am not left with the impression that you invented this idea yourself. So if Milt told you something, and you believed him, and it wasn't true, how does that make me wrong?
What I also said was that perhaps you didn't care whether or not Milt was telling the truth, because what you wanted out of this was exposure. Which you got. And I said that if that was your goal, then you accomplished it. Again, in what sense am I wrong?
Perhaps one assertion I did make was that Milt has singled me out as someone whose election he is trying to prevent. I told you he did this four years ago, and I described how he (or "Joy Goulart") managed to find a way to present, or at least mention, five of the six candidates now. By the way, if you consult his blog, you will find a scathing rant he did about me before the 2016 election. He did not discuss any other candidates. And when many of the things he said were untrue, and I tried to correct him, he blocked my comment, so I could not defend myself. In what sense am I "wrong" here? Do you think he really didn't worked hard against me in 2016? Do you think he ("Joy Goulart") really did mention me in the Nextdoor post, and I just failed to recognize my own name?
Please do more than just dismiss what I say as "wrong." Please illustrate the evidence of how wrong I am. I'm like you. When I'm wrong, I always want to know it, so I can learn and correct my thinking.
Fred
One last thought. I have heard that because I speak to you, am friendly with you that's a problem for some. I have also heard the same when it comes to Milton. I hope I am clear, I will not change who I am now or ever. I will be me and if that doesn't work for some then I am sorry. I will not exclude anyone and I will continue to speak to whomever would like to speak to me. In high school I never ran with any group, not the cool kids, the stoners, jocks etc. I went in and out of all those groups so at this stage in my life Im not about to join any group. In conclusion do not send me an application to your group
ReplyDelete( whatever group that is ) it will be returned to sender.