Wednesday, June 7, 2017
Slow Down.
There is an ongoing sentiment among some BP residents to lower the speed limit in the Park. This sentiment comes from two places.
Old time BP residents recall with pride and satisfaction the days when people in two counties knew of BP as the place that told motorists "Don't Even Think About Speeding," and we meant it. Enforcement was tight. Now, the perception is that people speed, and no one inhibits them. So some yearn for the good old days of what they recall as tighter enforcement.
Other BP residents, old and newer, also want to slow the flow of traffic, but they have another reason. They want traffic impediment, for the expressed (sometimes) reason of making driving through BP so annoying that people will prefer not to do it. These residents don't want "cut-throughs." Some of these residents want slower traffic, and some just want less traffic.
This theme-- of traffic slowing-- got some attention at last night's Commission meeting. Specifically, there was discussion of methods to slow traffic. These methods included tighter enforcement, as well as installation of "traffic calming" mechanisms and devices.
I put the term traffic calming in quotes for a reason. The mechanisms used don't really calm traffic. They slow it. Drivers whose progress on the roads is slowed by rotaries/roundabouts/traffic circles or various kinds of bumps are not calm. They are aggravated. And they are paying more attention to the slowing devices than they are to traffic and pedestrians. An experiment in one of the Scandinavian countries showed that eliminating most traffic control resulted in fewer accidents, because drivers had to be more attentive and careful at intersections. They couldn't simply assume that the traffic control devices would control traffic. They realized they had their own responsibilities to control themselves, and be mindful of others. Other problems with many of the kinds of traffic control mechanisms discussed last night include that they are traumatic to the vehicles, and they cause damage to suspensions. And if they slow regular drivers, they also slow drivers of emergency vehicles.
None of this got much discussion last night. Instead, there was the usual (especially for this Commission) intensity and urgency to do something, whether or not what was proposed was rational or adaptive.
In an attempt to deflect concern, Harvey Bilt told us that we should just lower the speed limit, and that doing so would not cost anything(!). Harvey said he had researched this carefully, having made what he counted as 35 phone calls on the matter. Others who also researched it made only one or two phone calls, and what they learned was very different from what Harvey thinks he learned. For example, we cannot lower the speed limit-- let alone install traffic obstacles-- without the County's permission, and the County requires us to get a traffic study first. Traffic studies are not at all free. There's also the cost of the signs announcing the speed limit. Tracy Truppman says she learned that if we use devices, such as speed cushions, they cost $3000 each.
Funny enough-- or perhaps not so funny-- we got a traffic study back in about 2006 or 2007. A driver hit two children in the Park, and there was a lot of energy to lower the speed limit. Curiously, there was no indication at the time that the faulty driver was speeding. But there was that intensity and urgency at the time, and some simply wanted to bull ahead. So we got our traffic study. At the time, the permitted speed limit on all Village streets was 30. The traffic study showed that few drivers in the Village drove faster than 25. So we changed the limit to 25, by which action we accomplished nothing. It did cost us, though. And now, despite what Harvey Bilt thinks he has reassured himself, we are considering costing ourselves again. And that's to make of the County a request they might not grant.
The alternative suggested by some, including our new Police Chief, was that we wait to see what the new administration (Manager and Police Chief) accomplish, before we start doing things. They want to increase enforcement, and they have already begun doing it. It seems eminently sensible, but we now have a Commission that shoots first, and asks questions later, so there's no real confidence available that the sensible will prevail.
It's not clear that traffic needs to slow down much. Some residents who don't have speed guns have a sense that people drive too fast. I walk for exercise, and I have that sense, too. I sense it especially on Griffing. Our Police Chief does have a speed gun, and he says most traffic is between 22 and 29 mph. More than 25 is not legal on any street except 6th Avenue, but up to 29 is not blazing speed. And the effect of that slightly higher than maximum permitted speed is mitigated for pedestrians by those pedestrians walking against the flow of traffic, so they can see cars coming (at any speed), and step onto the swale or the median.
Sure, drivers should do the right thing. So should pedestrians. We should all be careful. And no one should get hysterical. We should find solutions to problems, not invent problems, because we're eager to do something.
I think the Chief is right. He's new at the job, we just welcomed him, and we should see what he can accomplish for us. He knows to try to slow the traffic down, and we should slow ourselves down.
Has nobody thought of the fact that when you or I are out in the neighborhood and we have a sense that people are speeding it's because they are. When the police are out with a speed gun, people slow down. Come to my house some Sunday afternoon when i'm risking my life by trying to get the trash up front for trash day and see for yourself.
ReplyDeleteBramblewitch,
DeletePerhaps you missed my point. Or you didn't carefully read what I wrote. Yes, some people speed. Even moreso on your street: 6th Avenue. And I should point out to you, apart from the reassurance that we just got about increased enforcement, that 6th Avenue is a State road. It is the only BP street where the speed limit is not 25. The State would not allow us to lower the speed limit on your street. So you live on the street with the highest speed limit and the fewest impediments (stop signs, stop lights) to unencumbered driving. Whatever all of us see, you will see more. Some people who buy houses don't want to live on "main streets," and others don't mind. That was your choice.
But the other issue is that speeding has been determined generally to be pretty modest in BP. The quoted measured speeds of 22-29 applied to streets other than 6th Avenue. I don't know-- I'd have to ask the Chief-- if speeds on 6th Avenue were measured, and what they were. We don't have a lot of accidents in BP, either, but most of the ones we have are on 6th Avenue. That's also typically where most speeding tickets are issued. I enter 6th Avenue often. It's trickier than entering any other street in the Park. That's just the nature of the 6th Avenue beast.
From time to time over the years, some residents whose homes are adjacent to the park have complained that it's noisy and busy at the park. Yeah? What would anyone who chooses to buy a house adjacent to a public park expect? But these people complained, and they wanted something done, to make the street and the park as quiet and sedate as any block that didn't have a park and a recreation facility on it. It's just not a fair expectation.
As for people slowing down when police with radar guns are out, many people don't. They just don't look that far down the road. And we have typically had at least one cruiser that was not marked. Maybe that was used. So I understand that you're invoking the scientific principle that says that observing something changes what is being observed, but I don't think it's that material here.
Fred
I did read your comments and I am so very sick of hearing about 6th avenue being a state road. I am aware of that and yes I did make that decision.... a very long time ago during a period when "Don't even think about speeding" was a reality. I do understand that 6th has the highest speed limit, no problem if we actually cared that people travelled only slightly higher than the speed limit which is not the case most times. Is it a crime for me to expect to live on a safe and comfortable street where the speed limit is a slow 30 mph? I don't think so. Is it unreasonable for me to expect the police that I pay for to patrol my street whether I decide to show up and speak at village meetings or not? No it isn't, but all I hear is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, etc. I don't believe that I should have to follow up on someone else's job to have my home be comfortable and safe, that is what I pay my taxes for.
ReplyDeleteI also do not agree with you about people not slowing down when the police are out with the speed guns. I watch them and I see the difference between a lone person out trying to do yard work and a cop on the side of the road with a speed meter.
Sorry, I am not buying that party line.
Fair enough, and you're not wrong. But the issue I was addressing was not that we should shrug our shoulders, and allow drivers to do their worst on the roads around here. It was that we should not go overboard, installing various devices, at our expense, when all we need is the kind of enforcement you remember from the old days.
DeleteAnd I'd go a step further. I think a huge problem on the roads these days is drivers distracted by their toys. The State refuses to make a law against using one of a driver's hands to hold a mobile phone, and we're not allowed to make that law for the State. But we could stop all drivers holding a mobile phone, and just have a friendly chat with them about road safety, how distracting hand-held mobile phones can be, the value of Bluetooth, the speaker function of the phone, and wired earpieces. When drivers are on the phone, and especially if they're actually holding the phone, the process takes their attention away from other things, like what the speed limit is, and how fast they're driving. We didn't used to have that problem in the good old "Don't Even Think About Speeding" days. Now, we do.
Fred
Fred,
ReplyDeleteIt was misleading for Harvey to state that there is little to no cost to lower the speed limit on the local roads because we do need a traffic study, it's required per the Florida Statute that he cited. I made one call to a local municipal traffic expert, first he confirmed we need a traffic study and second he made an interesting point and that was there is something he referred to as the natural speed limit. It is within a certain range of the traffic speed that 85% of the cars drive at. That was the point you made, the natural speed limit in BP was 25 MPH back when it was lowered so the County agreed to lower it to 25 MPH. The interesting point the traffic expert made to me was if you lower the limit below the natural speed limit it could result in more accidents and that those that don't obey the limit at 25 MPH will also not obey the limit at 20 MPH.
But in order to figure out what the natural speed limit in BP currently is you must have a traffic study which directly contradicts what Harvey implied at the Commission meeting.
On the matter of our new chief, he made a commitment at the meeting to enhanced traffic enforcement and he is in the process of increasing the troops. Let him do his job, it doesn't happen overnight.
Chuck,
DeleteIt's not that I want to pick on Harvey, but Harvey famously says that people have two ears and one mouth, and they should use them proportionately. Harvey is not famous for listening more than he talks. He's only famous for quoting the quip about the ears and the mouth.
Fred
By the way if you are going to do a traffic study you might as well do a Comprehensive Study not just to determine if the speed limit should be lowered. For reference Miami Shores completed a Comprehensive Traffic Study last year and it cost approx. $87K. Ours might be less, I'm not certain but it seems the last time BP contracted for a traffic study the cost was $35K to $50K but that was over ten years ago.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.miamishoresvillage.com/village-clerk-meeting-minutes/village-council-meeting-minutes-february-16-2016.html
Chuck
For what it's worth, we now have a Commission, four of whom came into office with essentially no stated agenda. The one theme that was stated was a concerted intention to "listen to the residents," and that stated theme was very quickly abandoned.
ReplyDeleteTracy also had an agenda which she did not make public, and that was to get rid of our new Manager, Sharon Ragoonan. This Tracy did with fairly quick and dirty dispatch. And she has very clearly made arrangements with Jenny, Will, and Harvey that they will blindly and stupidly support anything Tracy wants. This is certainly to be expected from residents like Will, who had absolutely no involvement in the Village, and no interest in it, before he somehow decided he should be a Commissioner, and Jenny, who likewise had only limited involvement in the Village, and no experience with general government here. It's fair to say that Jenny had been interested in elected office here three years before last year, too, but she had to suspend her campaign. It is completely unknown what her interest and agenda were back then. Harvey had tried to get elected in 2013, came very close to succeeding, and did not attempt again in 2016. With the unusual opening that occurred early this year, some sense that he might not have much competition, and Tracy's promise to help him campaign, Harvey tried again, and he was successful this time. But we still have no idea what was his agenda or what he had in mind. He had a chance to show us in a Meet the Candidates event, but he, um, chickened out. So it might be expectable that his surest tactic is to do whatever Tracy tells him to do, which is what he has shown us thus far. The four of them are mostly directed by Tracy, but they support each other, such as with Will's ill-conceived new Boards.
Chuck is introducing ideas that require broad consideration, and possible change of direction, but this Commission has shown us no evidence of capacity to do that.
What we have then is four people who have to invent meaning for themselves in terms of their tenures on the Commission. And they have no basis for meaning. What they seem quickly to have figured out is blaming other people, obfuscating, and trying simply to "do" something, irrespective of the advisability or even rationality of what occurs to them to do. And they are somewhat uniquely (we haven't seen this on the Commission before) trying to hide behind the concept of "consensus" from our neighbors. They advocate more often than usual for "workshops" and other similar arrangements to solicit what they present as input from the rest of us. But what we've seen already is that when they get input in any form, they ignore it unless it is what they (Tracy) decided in advance to do.
That's why I refer to this Commission as the "Tracy Truppman Show, Starring Tracy...Truppman," and Jenny, Will, and Harvey as "bobbleheads." That's really all this is, and it represents an attempt both to enact what has no meaning and no one wants, and to try to invent meaning. For Tracy, the special meaning is represented by the fact that she uses an audience the way most use a mirror. What Tracy says and does has nothing to do with the Village. It has only to do with herself. The bobbleheads either haven't figured that out yet, or they're just so thrilled to be there that they don't care. Or they have nothing to bring to the table, so rubber-stamping Tracy is a good enough meaning to have, and it's better than nothing.
Fred
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